Works of Steel

"I get an idea of the location where the piece will end up, whether its hanging, or outside on a wall, or free standing in area of the yard which is most typical. Then talk about color or no color, stainless versus rust, you know. And make the model, or three or four models. I don't sketch, I go straight to programing through CorelDRAW or at that time, Illustrator, Adobe Illustrator? So I learned all that programing, you know, just because of the sculpture. And my laser runs off CorelDRAW. It recognizes it. That and you know, digital files like that. And so then I start manipulating whatever. A lot of times I love going to these, you know, cuts where I can actually pull things apart. And uh pretty much know what they're going to do these--you know, after I've done so many of them, I know what's going to happen with it and I can--you learn the gauges of steel-to-sky size up to whatever scale we're talking about."